Thursday, March 11, 2010

Days 10-12 of the Waco Siege

[Due to a combination of computer and dental problems, I have been gone the last few days, but molar and computer are both fixed and ready to roll.]

March 9, 1993:
Shortly after midnight on March 9, the negotiators tried to drive a wedge between Schneider and Koresh. They prodded and challenged Schneider about Koresh's claim that Schneider's wife, Judy, was also one of Koresh's wives, and that Koresh claimed to have had a child with Judy. This effort failed with Schneider professing total loyalty to Koresh.
In an effort to increase the pressure on the individuals by attempting to make their living conditions a little less bearable, the electricity to the compound was cut at 2:15 a.m.' At 9:20 a.m., Koresh stated through Schneider that he would not talk further until the power was restored.
At 9:54 a.m., Schneider expressed outrage over the movement of the armored vehicles around the compound, and the degree of property damage that they were causing. Schneider threatened that "we can take you out!"
At 10:28 a.m., the power to the compound was restored in order to allow those inside the compound to watch the televised news conference 10:30 a.m. and to encourage some progress in the discussions.
At various times throughout the day, HRT members observed weapons in the windows, and firing ports being cut in the plywood which had been placed over most of the windows in the compound.
At 2:04 p.m., the FBI delivered a videotape to the compound showing that the children who had been released were healthy, happy, and being well cared for.
At 3:40 p.m., the Branch Davidians placed a sign on the outside of the tower stating "God help us, we want the press." A short while later, one law enforcement official observed a sign in the press area, known as "satellite city," which stated "God help us, we are the press."
At 3:48 p.m., Schneider informed the negotiators that they were unhappy about the videotape of the released children since the children appeared to be behaving badly.
At 5:22,p.m., negotiators talked to Judy Schneider about the bullet wound to her finger. She was feeling ill because her finger had swollen to twice its size. She was urged to come out and obtain medical help; she refused.
At 8:54 p.m., another videotape-was sent out from the compound. This tape depicted approximately 29 individuals who all stated they were voluntarily remaining inside the compound, and that they did not want to come out.


(The Myth: David Koresh wasn’t a pedophile! That’s just something the FBI made up so they could kill them with impunity.

[The Truth: Oh yes he was. Not only did Vernon like little kids, taking ‘wives’ as young as 12, he also fucked the wives of his inner circle, such as Scott Schneider’s missus.]

March 10, 1993
Due to the stalemate, the electricity was cut once again at 2:28 a.m.
During the course of the day, numerous individuals came out of the compound, walked around, then went back inside. it appeared from these actions that they were attempting to test the resolve of the agents, since the FBI had warned people not to come outside without first obtaining advance permission.
The electrical power was restored to the compound at 10:15 a.m. for the same reason as the day before. .
The FBI sent in a second videotape at 1:06 p.m. This videotape contained a number of the negotiators personally pleading for a peaceful resolution.
At 9:40 p.m., the FBI learned from the U.S. Attorney's Office that local reporters had made statements to others admitting that they had illegally intercepted the cellular telephone communications of law enforcement officials.
The day ended with only 4 ½ hours of attempted negotiations and no progress.

(The Myth: The Davidians didn’t do anything wrong. They were just defending their church!)

[The Truth: It wasn’t any ‘church’ I or anyone else is familiar with. Face it, it was a ‘compound.’ In fact, they’d had advance notice of the raid and were lying in wait for the BATF agents. So where is the ‘self-defense?’ Regardless, when does any of this entitle you to shoot the cops when they come to arrest you?]

March 11,1993
March 11 began on a hopeful note when Steve Schneider advised negotiators at 12:54 a.m. that three or more individuals might come out on the next day.
At 4:01 a.m., Kathy Schroeder called the negotiators to inform them that she was one of the individuals who would exit the next morning. Schroeder had previously sent her children out, and had lost her husband, Michael, in the second gunfight on the afternoon of February 28.
At 6:05 a.m., the negotiators noted that there had been no direct contact with Koresh for the past 24 hours. However, contact with Steve Schneider was continuing.
At 10:16 a.m., the negotiators determined that they had spoken to a total of 50 people inside the compound.
Beginning at 11:00 a.m., and lasting throughout the day, the FBI sought to determine from Schneider and others if Koresh's failure to come to the telephone was due to failing health. No definitive information was obtained.
At 4:14 p.m., Schneider told the negotiators that the next day, March 12, Kathy Schroeder, Kevin Whitecliff, Brad Branch, and Oliver Gyarfas would exit the compound.
In the same conversation at 4:21 p.m., Schneider mentioned that Koresh was listening to Paul Harvey on the radio and that Harvey described a "shooting star" called the "guitar nebula." Schneider said that "David takes it as a sign." The FBI became hopeful that this might be the sign from God that Koresh had been waiting for since March 2.
In a conversation with Koresh at 7:03 p.m., he denied that the "guitar nebula" was the sign that he was looking for.
However, Koresh would discuss the importance of the "guitar nebula" in subsequent conversations.
Conversations with Koresh, Schneider, and Kathy Schroeder continued until approximately 11:15 p.m. with the only progress being Schroeder's promise to come out the next day.

(The Myth: David Koresh never lied to the FBI!)

[The Truth: Oh yes he did. He lied to them all the time and tried playing his Jesus routine on them in the hope that he could fool them just like he’d fooled his followers and the Gun Nuts who were all set to go to Mt. Carmel and break the siege of his ‘church.’ Furthermore, it was contagious, as one of his people lied to the FBI right here.]

S. Olson

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